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‎content/podcast/2026-06-29-the-powershell-podcast-encore-presentation-lessons-in-leadership-from-powershell-pioneers-jeffrey-snover-don-jones-e235.md‎

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title: "The PowerShell Podcast Encore presentation: Lessons in Leadership from PowerShell Pioneers Jeffrey Snover & Don Jones E235"
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author: Andrew Pla
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- Andrew Pla
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date: "2026-06-29T14:00:00+00:00"
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podcast_url: "https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/xpcp5tkvavaa3ta7/The_PowerShell_Podcast_Snover_and_Jones_Summit_2025_encore_episode_23593kiu.mp3"
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episode: 235
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youtube: 51w_lWFIfqU
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guid: powershellpodcast.podbean.com/3442d617-7c55-34cb-bb73-5f0521581ee4
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Encore presentation: Lessons in Leadership from PowerShell Pioneers Jeffrey Snover and Don Jones
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In this encore presentation of the PowerShell Podcast from April 28, 2025, we sit down with two legends of the PowerShell world: Jeffrey Snover, the inventor of PowerShell, and Don Jones, bestselling author, teacher, and longtime PowerShell community builder. Recorded live at the PowerShell + DevOps Global Summit, this conversation is packed with personal insights, impactful moments, and the kind of storytelling that only Snover and Jones can deliver.
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Key topics in this episode include:
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- The origin stories of PowerShell and how Jeffrey and Don’s paths crossed at a pivotal moment.
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- The evolution of PowerShell as a scripting language, community, and ecosystem.
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- The importance of storytelling in tech, from teaching to team-building to leadership.
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- The shift from individual contributor to leader and how both hosts navigated that path with intention.
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- The power of community: real stories from users whose lives were changed by learning PowerShell.
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- Career advice for the next generation of IT professionals and community contributors.
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Along the way, we hear hilarious stories from the early days of PowerShell development, honest reflections on growth and failure, and powerful reminders that vulnerability, repetition, and kindness are core to success in any career. Whether you're new to PowerShell or a long-time community member, this episode is a true masterclass in leadership, learning, and legacy.
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Bio and links:
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Jeffrey Snover is the inventor of PowerShell, Microsoft Technical Fellow, and a legendary figure in the IT and DevOps communities. With a background in distributed systems, Jeffrey led the development of PowerShell to revolutionize system management and automation on Windows. Known for his visionary leadership and storytelling, Jeffrey has played a pivotal role in shaping modern IT practices. His work continues to inspire technologists around the world to build, share, and lead with intention and clarity.
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Don Jones is a bestselling author, speaker, educator, and one of the most influential figures in the PowerShell community. With decades of experience in IT, Don has written numerous foundational books on PowerShell, including Learn Windows PowerShell in a Month of Lunches. He co-founded the PowerShell + DevOps Global Summit and has mentored countless professionals through his teaching, writing, and leadership. Don is a passionate advocate for storytelling in tech, career development, and building inclusive communities that empower the next generation.
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[https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreysnover/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreysnover/)
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[https://www.linkedin.com/in/concentrateddon/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/concentrateddon/)
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[https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewplatech/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewplatech/)
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The PowerShell Podcast: [https://pdq.com/the-powershell-podcast](https://pdq.com/the-powershell-podcast)

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title: The PowerShell Podcast Building Better SharePoint with PowerShell with Dan Adams
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author: Andrew Pla
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- Dan Adams
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date: "2026-07-06T14:00:00+00:00"
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podcast_url: "https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/y4wg6tqyagd9pauq/The_PowerShell_Podcast_episode_236_Dan_Adamsbbfw2.mp3"
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Dan Adams is a 13-year Microsoft 365 and SharePoint veteran who joined Andrew to talk about the often misunderstood world of SharePoint, the shift to Microsoft Graph, and his custom PowerShell module built which can assess and benchmark M365 environments. Dan breaks down why SharePoint gets such a bad reputation (spoiler: it's usually about who built it, not the platform), explains why "everything in M365 is SharePoint" isn't just a meme, and digs into how the Microsoft Graph API is changing the way admins interact with the platform. He also shares his experience going from longtime podcast listener to first-time guest, and closes with some honest advice about reaching out to people in the community.
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- SharePoint's bad reputation often comes from poor initial architecture, not the platform itself. Getting the information structure right at the start has downstream effects on everything from Copilot to Purview to legal compliance, and PowerShell automation is only as useful as the metadata you've set up to work with.
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- The Microsoft Graph API is consolidating how everything in M365 is accessed. Where older APIs like the SharePoint client-side object model might count a batch of 100 items as 100 separate API calls, Graph treats that same batch as a single call, which is a meaningful difference for performance and rate limiting.
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- Dan's custom PowerShell module (SP’r Smash Bros Automation) automates M365 permission extraction to produce security assessments against CIS benchmarks and Microsoft Secure Score. Built as a practical tool for consultants and admins, it delivers a fast, standardized baseline of a tenant's security posture, featuring an optional AI sidecar to instantly generate personalized remediation plans.
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Guest Bio:
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Dan Adams is a Microsoft 365 and SharePoint Architect with 13 years of M365 consulting experience. Leveraging deep SharePoint and strategic information architecture expertise, he has led teams to deliver over 40 Fortune 500 intranets across industries ranging from healthcare to the NFL. He is the architect behind multiple award-winning portals, including two Ragan "Best Overall Intranet" winners. Dan is also an AI enthusiast, an advanced PowerShell expert, and the creator of the custom "SP'r Smash Bros Automation" module for Microsoft 365.
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- Dan Adams on LinkedIn: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-adams-10887650/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-adams-10887650/)
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- Dan Adams on Github: [https://github.com/sprsmashbrosautomation](https://github.com/sprsmashbrosautomation)
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- PnP PowerShell: [https://pnp.github.io/powershell/](https://pnp.github.io/powershell/)
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- PowerShell Wednesday Playlist: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQT8lrn8hhU&list=PL1mL90yFExsix-L0havb8SbZXoYRPol0B](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQT8lrn8hhU&list=PL1mL90yFExsix-L0havb8SbZXoYRPol0B)

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title: The PowerShell Podcast Write the Test First - Robert Prüst on Pester, PSConf, and Learning in Public
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date: "2026-07-13T14:00:00+00:00"
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Andrew sits down with Robert Prüst, a Netherlands-based Microsoft MVP, to geek out about Pester, AI-assisted coding, and the power of showing your work in the PowerShell community. Robert breaks down how Pester works as a testing framework (unit testing, integration testing, and mocking) and explains why testing is the key to trusting AI-generated code. They also dig into a Visual Studio Code extension Robert built for Azure DevOps, the conference culture around PSConf EU, and why community involvement matters as much as technical skill. The conversation wraps with some honest takes on imposter syndrome, learning in public, and the value of just getting started.
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- Pester isn't just for unit testing your functions -- it scales all the way up to testing live infrastructure, validating Azure environments, and serving as the backbone of security tools like Maester. The more you invest in it, the more useful it gets.
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- AI-generated code needs a safety net, and Pester is exactly that. Testing gives sysadmins a way to verify what the code is actually doing, which is especially critical when you didn't write it yourself.
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- Imposter syndrome is almost universal in this community, and the people who feel it most are often the ones learning the most. Getting into community spaces -- online or in person -- is one of the fastest ways to grow.
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Robert Prüst is a Microsoft MVP and MCT based in the Netherlands, focused on PowerShell, Azure automation, and DevOps. He has around 24 years of professional IT experience and has been working with PowerShell since roughly 2012. Robert is a regular speaker at PSConf EU, blogs at [powershellpr0mpt.com](http://powershellpr0mpt.com), and is active on GitHub under the handle powershellpr0mpt. He runs a custom Azure Engineer bootcamp course and contributes to open source projects including the AMBA and EPAC frameworks.
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- Pester documentation: [https://pester.dev](https://pester.dev)
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- Maester: [https://maester.dev](https://maester.dev)
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- PSKoans: [https://github.com/vexx32/PSKoans](https://github.com/vexx32/PSKoans)
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- PSConfEU: [https://psconf.eu](https://psconf.eu)
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- Robert’s blog: [https://powershellpr0mpt.com](https://powershellpr0mpt.com)
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- Robert on GitHub: [https://github.com/powershellpr0mpt](https://github.com/powershellpr0mpt)
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- Robert on LinkedIn: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rprust/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/rprust/)

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